Shakeel Shabbir

All parliamentary appearances

Entries 831 to 840 of 1945.

• 25 Sep 2012 in National Assembly: Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, I wish to oppose the amendment because it seeks to reduce the maximum penalty. In effect, you are now encouraging people to make fraudulent licences because the maximum they can ever be fined is Kshs100,000. We are talking about forgery of licences and I see no reason why the should not be not exceeding Kshs300,000, and not exceeding three years as stated in the Bill. view
• 25 Sep 2012 in National Assembly: Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, I oppose on the basis that impunity is being encouraged. I think the fine should be prohibitive to stop people from committing those crimes. I am sorry to say that the House is allowing this to happen. We are actually encouraging impunity. view
• 25 Sep 2012 in National Assembly: Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, the Assistant Minister does not understand. The provision is that it is not exceeding a figure and the court can decide less. So, please, do not say that it is a maximum of Kshs500,000. It is not exceeding and it could be Kshs1. view
• 25 Sep 2012 in National Assembly: Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, I oppose the amendment for the same reason that the fine must be punitive. It must be a deterrent. view
• 25 Sep 2012 in National Assembly: Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, I wish to oppose. Once again, it is a deterrent. It is meant to be punitive. We are not here to serve the pockets of the guys who are breaking the law. So, I oppose. view
• 25 Sep 2012 in National Assembly: Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, I need to be on record. I wish to oppose that because if somebody kills somebody else, he should pay. I have noted that every single clause in this Bill is being deleted. So, why are we wasting our time on this thing? There is no clause that you are not deleting except clause 11. So, you will have a two-clause Bill. view
• 25 Sep 2012 in National Assembly: And which other one? That is it. view
• 25 Sep 2012 in National Assembly: Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, before I oppose this amendment I want to be absolutely sure that the reason given by the mover has the right aim. I want to just have a clarification on this one. I do not know whether the Chair can help me on this one. They are saying up to 10,000, substituting the word more than 20. So, is he suggesting that it is going to be not more than 10 or is he saying it will not be more than 20? What is he trying to say? view
• 25 Sep 2012 in National Assembly: Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, in that case, could we then go to proposed Section 5A(b)? Is that one not going to be amended? The fine is remaining. In the same terms, I object because, in this case, it is the other way round. It says “a fine not less than Kshs20,000 or both”. I would suggest a fine not exceeding a certain figure. So, we are clearly putting “not less than Kshs20,000”. I would like the Chair of the Committee to help me. If we amend Clauses 9(a) and (b), we are leaving Sub Section (5B) as it stands; ... view
• 25 Sep 2012 in National Assembly: Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I have a further proposed amendment. I do not think it should only be limited just to the motorcycles. I think it should be motorcycles and any other public vehicle. Hon. Midiwo’s amendment restricts it to motorcycles. view